Today, not-a-doctor Judy Keith doesn’t have a website any more.
Her website, drjudykeith.com, is down.
I guess someone must have told her that just removing the letters “Ph.D.” from the page wasn’t enough — when your website is called “drjudykeith” and you’re not a doctor, then it’s fraudulent no matter what the actual page says. (duh…)
Of course, her problems won’t end there, because her business is registered in the State of Texas with the Ph.D. as part of the official business name.
A $1 search on the Secretary of State website can confirm this for anyone who cares to look. The Texas Comptroller might also have business documents that you can see for free. (I didn’t check there once I saw the business formation documents.)
When Judy Keith decides to commit fraud, she really goes all the way!
Fraud is never a minor offense — at the very least, it is a deliberate lie which involves gains for the liar and loss to anyone who believed the lie and acted in good faith based on that misrepresentation. Every single person who worked with Judy Keith in the belief that she was licensed as a Ph.D. when she was not, has been defrauded by her — her gain, their loss — and as survivors, have we not all been jerked around enough by people who have lied to us for their own benefit?
Let’s hope this not-a-doctor is off the page for good.
The list of crimes that she could be charged with, is endless.
I hope they nail her on everyone of them!
H~
Comment by juliewtf — August 31, 2009 @ 2:01 pm
Hear hear!
Comment by RockerGirl — August 31, 2009 @ 2:06 pm
Dr. Judy Keith is a good therapist. I worked with her and saw her PH.D. diploma on the wall. Have you checked her school? …didn’t think so.
Well, I did check and she has a PH.D. So I guess, what is it they say in Texas, you are all hat and no cattle?
So you are a watchdog of therapists and happened to notice her site went down/changed and then made some broad jump that she did not have a PH.D.? Who has so much time every day that they can check so many websites? Only someone on a bad mission. Only someone who received a whisper to check a specific website.
Could it be that you are carrying water for someone else? My imaginings are as follows:
1. screen capture of your blog
2. offer my attorneys to sue on behalf of Dr. Keith against you for libel
-lawsuit as Jane Doe
3. supoena to WordPress
4. WordPress hands over your identification. (read your contract.)
5. Lawsuit filed and discovery starts.
6. What? You have no assets?
As much as you care for your therapist, this isn’t your fight. Why invest energy in this instead of building up your own life? It is easy to call others liars but you have no basis for this. So I am calling you out. You can’t prove she doesn’t have a PH.D. because she does and I have seen the diploma and checked with her university to make sure. All you have is supposition and strawman arguments. Or do you also believe that Mr. Obama isn’t really president? You make the same type of argument as birthers.
I am a former patient of Timberlawn and my therapist was Dr. Keith. Our work together dramatically improved my life and I have so much respect for Dr. Keith and Dr. Colin Ross. They deserve my respect and I am angry that rockergirl would take such a cheap shot.
Comment by serenador — August 31, 2009 @ 10:50 pm
LOL — speaking of carrying water… I can certainly tell who you’ve been talking to.
Well, despite your very… ummm… personally directed response, Judy Keith is still not licensed as a Ph.D., and that’s according to the Texas licensing board. So I don’t know what you’re calling me out about. Facts are facts. She is not licensed to use the degree. And she changed her site to remove the Ph.D. reference, and then she took the site down altogether — not the sign of an innocent party. More the sign of someone whose ass is in a wringer.
And you’re not doing your argument much good by making all these personal assumptions about me based on what you hear from a lying borderline bitch like Kelly. I mean, if you’re going to accuse ME of making unfounded accusations… shouldn’t you try to make that argument without relying on so much unsubstantiated gossip to do it? It would help if you could do that in future, because otherwise I have trouble taking you seriously.
So… in the meantime, you can be as angry as you want. It doesn’t change anything. I know where my facts came from. And I know where your gossip came from too.
Comment by RockerGirl — August 31, 2009 @ 11:42 pm
Interesting. Your own internet actions over the last few days have revealed a lot about your own character, Rockergirl.
Comment by bellajay — September 1, 2009 @ 1:09 am
Hello bellajay — thanks for stopping by!
I don’t know what you think has been “revealed” here, other than what Kelly’s gossiping about lately — apparently you think I should be ashamed of something, but your thoughts are irrelevant to my reality. I checked my facts, and trying to insult me won’t change them. You’re free to try though.
The person who should be drowning in shame for her internet and other actions is Kelly. She’s seeing a reflection her own deceitful behavior in what I’m doing, because she did something similar — EXCEPT that she lied through her teeth to do it, and she knew she was lying, and she admitted it. So now she assumes I’m lying too — or hopes I am. But I’m just telling the simple truth. Kelly’s shame is all her own, and having her little buddies come over here to comment on my actions really won’t succeed in transferring her shame to me. But again, you’re free to try.
You people really should call the licensing board, though. Seriously.
Why is nobody calling them? If you’re so sure I’m wrong, why don’t you just call the same place I did and ask the same question and see what they tell you?
Are you afraid you’ll find out I’m telling the truth??
Figures — you’re all a bunch of chicken shit losers who would rather pretend the truth is what you want it to be than risk seeing it for what it is.
But I guess it’s always nice to have readers, even stupid ones — thanks for the recommendations, Kelly!
Comment by RockerGirl — September 1, 2009 @ 9:24 am
A website containing “PH.D” on each and every page suddenly being changed to remove “PH.D” and having “MA” there now in it’s place. Then a phone call to the licensing board WITH verbal CONFIRMATION that Judy Keith is NOT licensed as a PH.D. How is that a “broad jump”?
RockerGirl listed where one can go to search to get more confirmation but simply calling the licensing board was sufficient for me.
You really have no clue on RockerGirl’s character. RockerGirl isn’t perfect but she’s damn good. She is also big enough to face, see, and admit when she is wrong.
Nice work RockerGirl, thorough as always!
Comment by kharasone — September 1, 2009 @ 11:54 am
Thanks Kharasone!
And I’m glad that someone else had the sense to just call the board and ask.
Strangers making comments on my character like they have the first clue is amusing, but not really on point.
Of course, they’re all scared of the point. They don’t dare to call the board themselves, because then they would be proven wrong — so instead, they just spout crap and try to get personal and hope that everyone gets distracted from Judy Keith and her fraud. *snort* good luck, girls…
On the plus side, these people are putting on a wonderful display of some of the problematic behaviors that I’ve written about in other blog posts — which is kind of cool, because it’s always nice to have examples of stuff. In my head, I’m already referring to their comments as “Exhibit A”.
Comment by RockerGirl — September 1, 2009 @ 12:26 pm
Rockergirl, unfortunately your assumptions about who I may be affiliated with are off base. I really have no vested interested in the ‘licensing board’, ‘Judy Keith’, or ‘Kelly’.
However, a search on Judy Keith (to find out more about her and the situation) revealed some very interesting things about YOU. I really had no idea you went to such lengths to publically discredit others and prevent their (legitimate) voices being heard. How long did all of those fake emails and posts take you to set up? What about directing spam to websites: You must be a pro at that by now! Did you and Kathy orchestrate all that together, or can you take all the credit yourself? (Oh – she does KNOW about all of this, doesn’t she?)
Hmmm… Cyber stalking… Cyber bullying…
You wouldn’t happen to be borderline at all, would you?
Shame. I’m really not a fan of borderlines. (I know you of all people can appreciate that!)
However I really do appreciate your website here, Rockergirl. I especially enjoy the posts about how survivors would do well to direct their energies into their own healing instead of misdirecting their anger elsewhere and spending so much time attacking and discrediting others.
Sage advice, don’t you think?
Have a lovely day, sweetie.
Comment by bellajay — September 2, 2009 @ 6:20 am
Hello again Bellajay –
That’s so sweet that you would even claim you took the time to research me! (Although if you have no vested interest in any of this, then I can’t imagine why you would possibly bother — unless you have some vested in me? Do I have my own personal hater?? Oh, it’s almost like being a celebrity…)
But once again… your ambition exceeds your intelligence.
There is no possible way that you could research me, or Judy Keith, and come up with the links you’re claiming you did — because there ARE no such links. (Unless you created some…? I suppose I should care that you might have, but I don’t.)
The only person who could even suggest such links to you is Kelly — because she’s the actual author of the hate campaign to which you are referring. She is the one who made hateful posts under fake names (and later admitted it under her real one), thus engaging in cyber bullying. That much I do know about. I don’t know if she did the other things you mentioned, but I wouldn’t be surprised.
But in case this isn’t glaringly apparent to you — I am not Kelly. The things she did can’t be laid at my door, because I’m a different person.
(I’m trying to use very small words and ideas here… I hope it’s enough for you to understand what I’m saying…)
None of the things you’re talking about are related to me, this blog, or Judy Keith. They are things that Kelly did to a different therapist — one whose name you somehow also know.
Wow, you sure seem to know a lot of stuff, especially for someone who claims to know nothing at all and to be a complete stranger to everyone involved. *rolls eyes*
Look, I appreciate you taking the time to try to construct responses that I might find personally insulting — that’s really very flattering.
But I still think you’re just an idiot.
If you’re here because I’m talking about Judy Keith and you think I’m telling terrible lies about her, then you (like everyone else) are still stubbornly avoiding doing the one thing that would settle this — call the board yourself.
Ask the board if Judy Keith is licensed as a Ph.D. It’s a yes or no question — they might try to put you off, but if you persist, they will answer it with a yes or a no — and the answer is no.
Rise above your penchant for gossip and slander and just go check your facts.
Unless you already know I’m right, so attacking me personally is the only way you can think of to mount a defense…
If you don’t care about the issues in the post to which you’re commenting, and you’re just a stranger who decided for no apparent reason to stop by and attack me personally — well… that would be really bizarre.
Of course, you’re not really a stranger with no vested interest — that much is very obvious. You’ve contradicted yourself all over the place, you’re too well informed about Kelly’s wrongdoings to be a stranger to her (apparently you’re even better informed about those than I am!), and you have some reason for trying to blame her wrongdoings on me.
So… that’s interesting. I don’t know what your goal is… but whatever it is that you’re trying to do, you’re failing miserably. Maybe you should try again.
Comment by RockerGirl — September 2, 2009 @ 9:33 am
It is possible to have a PH.D and not register as a PH.D to practice in a particular State. Typically professional licenses allow for a limited amount of practice in a State where a person is not registered under a reciprocal clause.
I have no idea how practicing on the internet is regulated or if it is regulated at all.
Possible that Keith is licensed not at all or in a different state. Possible she is in the process of registering. She should not have been practicing without being registered. It seems she is aware of that and has stopped.
In my opinion it is not likely that any action will be taken other than cease and desist.
Comment by MFF — September 2, 2009 @ 1:38 pm
Hi Michael –
You make a good point — I don’t know what pieces of paper Judy Keith has and what pieces of paper she doesn’t have. Unaccredited schools give degrees with the same letters as accredited institutions do — but educated people understand that there’s still a world of difference between the two.
That’s why, after I spoke to the board, I said specifically that she is not licensed as a Ph.D. — and not that she doesn’t have one. She could have ten of them, for all I know. But if the board doesn’t license her to USE any of them, then they’re just meaningless pieces of paper.
And if it’s true that, as one of the previous commentors claimed, she has hung a meaningless piece of paper on her office wall where her clients can see it… well, that really only underscores how far she was willing to carry her fraud.
According to the dates on the various websites where Judy Keith has used the Ph.D. degree, it’s certainly not a NEW degree — she’s been using the Ph.D. since at least 2005 (the oldest dated site I found), and she’s been in Texas for longer than that, so the board has had plenty of time to approve the degree as part of her license — IF they were going to.
As for action taken — you might be right. It will probably depend a lot on the actual details of the case — like how long it’s been going on, degree of knowledge, maybe exactly how she’s misused the credential… According to the records of previous disciplinary actions taken by the board against other clinicians who have claimed false credentials (publically available online at the board’s website), there’s a pretty wide range of possible actions the board might take, from reprimand and supervision all the way to license revocation.
I don’t know any of those specific details yet, but will be interesting to see what the board does with this case.
Thanks for the comment.
Comment by RockerGirl — September 2, 2009 @ 2:21 pm
Your response is so far off base as to render it absolutely meaningless.
What I DO care about is people who go to extraordinary lengths to silence others who have legitimate complaints about unethical therapy practices, and it is YOUR behind-the-scenes part in this that has been revealed in the last week. The fact that your behaviors are so obviously the same kind of borderline behaviors that you so vehemently rail against make them all the more laughable. I can only shake my head in disbelief.
Comment by bellajay — September 4, 2009 @ 7:27 am
and you are an expert why?
Comment by serenador — September 6, 2009 @ 9:04 pm
Hi Bellajay!
My very own hater is back again — yay!
Anyone who wants to can take a few minutes to compare Bellajay’s comments, as well as the comments from Kelly (Secret Shadows) and serenador, to the list of points for identifying a hate campaign. This is really minor as far as hate campaigns go, but most of the points can still be seen.
“Your response is so far off base as to render it absolutely meaningless.”
Oh gee, I’m sorry you couldn’t make sense of what I said. And I was trying so hard to use words that were within your level of understanding…
“people who go to extraordinary lengths”
Well, I hardly think that writing a few blog posts counts as “extraordinary lengths”.
But… you’ve come here, to my blog, claiming to be a “complete stranger”, who claimed to already know all kinds of things about me, who claimed to actually do research on me, and who has now taken the time to write three comments so far (with more to come, I’m sure, because haters never let go)…
It looks like you’ve gone to some pretty extraordinary lengths…
“to silence others who have legitimate complaints about unethical therapy practices”
Who have I silenced?
I’ve posted each of your three rather incoherent comments, whole and unedited, so clearly I haven’t silenced you. So… who?
And what legitimate complaints have I silenced? If it’s legitimate, how can I silence it at all? How powerful do you think I am??
However — ironically, you’ve written your comments in response to a legitimate complaint I’ve posted about Judy Keith… and your response has been to attack me personally, presumably in the hope that I will shut up, or take it back, or run away crying, or something like that…
So really, it looks a lot more like you’re trying to silence me and my legitimate complaints — you’re doing exactly what you’re trying to accuse me of doing. Which makes you look kind of stupid. Again.
“it is YOUR behind-the-scenes part in this that has been revealed in the last week”
Really? By you??
But you haven’t revealed anything about me. So far, you haven’t said anything about me at all. You’ve provided no facts, no details, nothing that can be independently verified… you’ve provided nothing at all, except a lot of gossipy comments that don’t apply to me.
And doesn’t “behind the scenes” imply things that were done privately rather than out in the open? How could you, a “complete stranger”, get behind my scenes to know what I was doing there anyway?
Of course, you didn’t… because even if there was anything there to find, you would have no way of gaining access to it.
“your behaviors are so obviously the same kind of borderline behaviors…”
This is the second time you’ve said something like this, so I’m guessing you intend it as a species of insult? *sigh*
Bellajay, I’m flattered to have a hater, I really am… but you suck at this.
Comment by RockerGirl — September 8, 2009 @ 3:06 pm
“and you are an expert why?”
Hi serenador…
I’m sure you know what you mean, but I have no clue what you’re talking about.
How is this comment even relevant to anything being said here?
I called the board and asked a simple yes-or-no question, and then I stuck with the call (despite their attempts to brush me off with a lot of CYA bullshit) until I got a simple yes-or-no answer. And then I posted what they said.
That doesn’t make me an expert. It makes me a person with enough common sense to check my facts. Thus far, you have not indicated that you have the same degree of common sense.
Why don’t you stop trying to look clever and just call the board. Not the school, not your best friend, not the guy down the street who has a Ph.D. so he would know… *rolls eyes* — call the board.
Or just run your mouth on empty words. Your choice.
Comment by RockerGirl — September 8, 2009 @ 3:06 pm